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Updated: 11:10 AM Nov 3, 2009 Special Assignment: A Family's Fight for Justice, Part 2 For one Waynesboro family, it's a fight for justice...and it's a fight they say seems never-ending. Posted: 11:15 PM Nov 2, 2009Reporter: Katie Beasley Email Address: katie.beasley@wrdw.com |
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Posted by: to "john crichton"
on Nov 5, 2009 at 08:31 PM
Let me get this straight. Calling people cowards, backwood fools, idiots, and wishing they were in the truck with Mr. Bailey while he is drinking and driving makes you a better person HOW???????
Posted by: illegal is illegal
Location: Burke
on Nov 5, 2009 at 07:57 PM
Are you forgetting that driving while under the influence of ALCOHOL is ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, ILLEGAL, as well!!!! If the powers to be in the justice system did not do their job, were the Ide's given the right to police Mr. Bailey and hand out their on justice? I don't think so. Revenge has become their obsession.
Posted by: Wow, JC!
on Nov 5, 2009 at 07:00 PM
Wow, John Crichton, you must be some man -- threatening to "attack" two females. You know, if the Ides didn't want other truths out in the open, they should not have tried to be so one-sided in their publicity. All over the Internet, they posted lies about not only Jack Bailey, but also his family as a whole. There were so many hateful, vindictive lies spread, and anyone who read them had every right to respond against them. When the Ides chose to take this to the news and plaster a man's face all over the news, surely they were prepared for people to point out other relevant details of the accident that has them angry enough to make themselves the personal law over the life of Jack Bailey. If this were simply about drinking & driving & keeping the roads safer, there are certainly others they could be policing & publicizing. The Ides are very aware of other individuals who have been convicted of more DUIs than Jack; yet, they aren't publicizing them. Not about the accident, huh? Safety?
Posted by: B C
Location: BC
on Nov 5, 2009 at 06:22 PM
You Jack defenders are missing the point! The drugs in his system ARE ILLEGAL!! ILLEGAL TO BUY! ILLEGAL TO POSSESS! ILLEGAL TO CONSUME! ILLEGAL I don't care how many days they stay in your system. He should of been if nothing else sentenced to a court ordered rehab just for testing positive. The fact that the powers that be in the justice system did not do their job by convicting him of the prior DUI's does not mean they never happened. He was still stoped by law enforcement and in there eyes met the criteria to be arested for DUI. And stop throwing the blame at Mr. Ide. You saying that "he drove drunk for years" and somehow mite have brought this wreck on himself is really a strong stance to take concidering whom you are defending.
Posted by: john crichton
on Nov 5, 2009 at 06:06 PM
Shannon and all of you other cowards calling out the Ide family. Why can't you get it through your heads that this story is about Jack's repeated behavior. To call out anyone outside of that is ridiculous. People like you and Monika are a very persuasive reason to let Jack drink and drive (only if you're with him). For the people saying anything about the wreck 7 yrs ago, unless you have a time machine to go back and fix it let it go. This is about someone who should not be allowed to drive on the same roads me or my family travels on. Not until he has gotten some help to stop his destructive behavior. He has a very obvious history of drug and alcohol abuse and that is what should be looked at, not a 7 year old accident. However if you should feel the need to attack the Ides further please leave your real name and a contact number and I will show you backwood fools what an attack really is. So Shannon and Monika get up off your knees if you are trying to start a fight. F all you idiots
Posted by: Anonymous
on Nov 5, 2009 at 04:59 PM
I mean, is it really Jessica's place to police Jack Baiey now bc of the accident? No. Leave him alone. He will get his.
Posted by: "Friend of Family"
on Nov 5, 2009 at 03:47 PM
That's exactly what the Ide's are trying to do "just focus on Jack". Forget what Mr. Ide did, don't worry about that part. Your assumption that if Jack didn't have drugs in his system, at that speed he could have killed Mr. Ide anyway is absurd. Maybe so, maybe not. Based on that assumption and seeing that the Ide's are try to make this all about justice, the Ide's should go into law enforcement and start taking down the tag number of every speeder on the highway.
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 02:22 PM
What did the Ide's accomplish by plastering Mr. Bailey's picture all over Channel 12. Both families have now been judged and ridiculed needlessly. They can't say anymore it's about drinking and driving and justice, or they would have plastered their Daddy's face on Channel 12 years ago.
Posted by: Friend of Family
Location: W'boro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 01:49 PM
With the wreck aside..lets please just focus on Jack. With that being said lets start off on some facts: Jack does drugs. Does anyone disagree with that?? Obv not if they have record of it. Jack has been arrested 4 times for DUI. Jack drinks and drives on a regular basis. And if anyone disagrees with that please stop being so naive. Not to say that Jack isn't a nice human being but this is not safe behavior for anyone. So if anyone is questioning why people think he should be in jail: well here it is. Community service and one night in jail does not do justice for the crimes he has commited. Doing ectasy and meth should have gotton jail time all alone. Now onto the wreck- .04 is half the legal limit. Doug Ide was not intoxicated: whether he was drinking that day or the night before. Even if he ran that stop sign thats all he was guilty of. Jack was going an excess of 85. And I know that road all too well. Even if he didnt run it Jack could have still hit him going at that speed.
Posted by: anonymous
Location: usa
on Nov 5, 2009 at 01:37 PM
Does trouble just hunt down Jack Bailey, this is what everyone defending him makes it sound like. If he was such a good man he wouldn't find himself in the middle of stuff like this time and time again. If you say he's only been convicted once and he has all these different mug shots, isn't that a problem?
Posted by: agree to disagree
Location: wboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 12:42 PM
I don't think ANYONE would disagree that Jack deserves some kind of consequences for his actions; however, these personal attacks are not consequences or justice! BTW, you obviously have not read the comments posted on facebook by the Ides (Jessica included) or you would know this is not just about the wreck or another DUI arrest.
Posted by: to: shannon
Location: wboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 12:03 PM
how dare you call out jessica when you obviously dont know her! she has said it doesnt matter whose fault the wreck is. its over. the issue is that he is STILL drinking and driving and getting away with it! how is bringing it to peoples attention an issue? if they live in wboro then they most likely already know. nobody is picking on jack. getting arrested (note i didnt say convicted) for 4 DUIs deserves some kind of consequences. how can anyone disagree with that?
Posted by: TO EVERYONE
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 11:16 AM
Here's a thought...what happened in the past is in the PAST and really doesn't matter anymore. MOVE ON! Your personal opinions of these people are IRRELEVANT
Posted by: no it's not
on Nov 5, 2009 at 11:10 AM
he was NOT driving under the influence if the drugs were from nights before. If I'm not mistaken, I read where someone posted the alcohol in Ide's blood could have been from the night before so he wasn't drinking and driving. What's good for the goose....
Posted by: Anonymous
on Nov 5, 2009 at 11:07 AM
Wonderful Wonderful comment "BurkeDawg"!!! No one thought of that. Drugs do stay in your system a little while. When people heard "he was intoxicated and had drugs in his system" they just take that as, he was obliverated and deliriously jacked up. That's very unfair to judge that. How many people right now are not intoxicated by alcohol and drugs, but were 2 days ago?? But it would still show up in your system. OMG!!!!!!!!! Let it go Ide's!! The past is over and done with.
Posted by: ---yes it is
Location: bc
on Nov 5, 2009 at 10:56 AM
just bc he wasnt CONVICTED doesnt mean its not his 4th DUI. he was DRIVING UNDER the INFLUENCE... convicted or not!
Posted by: to anonymous
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 10:45 AM
the wreck that you are referring to in which his girlfriend at the time was injured did not involved Jack. He was in a separate vehicle. This is exactly what people are talking about..if you don't know what you are saying shut up!
Posted by: ---
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 5, 2009 at 09:00 AM
This is not Jack's 4th DUI! It is repeatedly being said that this is his 4th. He has only been CONVICTED of ONE. There was no DUI conviction from the accident in which Mr. Ide was involved. If the family wanted there to be, they should have fought it in the court THEN instead of taking the money. They cannot, years later, claim that he was under the influence. When they accepted the money, they agreed with the sentence and charges he received.
Posted by: SHANNON
Location: OUT OF STATE
on Nov 5, 2009 at 08:24 AM
JESSICA, YOU ARE "SUPPOSE" TO BE A WOMAN OF GOD; HOWEVER YOU CONTINUE TO JUDGE THIS YOUNG MAN 7 YEARS AFTER THE ACCIDENT THAT TOOK YOUR FATHERS LIFE. THE SAME ACCIDENT THAT WAS CLEARLY YOUR DADS FAULT. HE TO HAD ALCHOL IN HIS SYSTEM AT 10 IN THE MORNING, ALONG WITH A COOLER IF BEER IN HIS TRUCK....IT PRETTY MUCH LOOKS LIKE A CASE OF SUICIDE, BUT WHO AM I TO JUDGE? ONLY OUR LORD CAN JUDGE US FOR OUR MISTAKES!!!!
Posted by: BurkeDawg
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 07:54 PM
The vehicle was not moved in any way. I arrived on the scene of the accident about 10 minutes after it happened. Ide's vehicle was where it was because he pulled out in front of Jack's vehicle, which was twice the size of Ide's. I talked to Jack and he was in no way intoxicated. Yes, he had drugs in his system. They can stay in your system for weeks so it had no bearing on the accident. Ide had been drinking before 8 a.m. which is probably why he pulled out in front of Jack. The accident was 100% Ide's fault. It's terrible what happened, but stop blaming Jack just because of your personal opinions.
Posted by: cupid
Location: sky looking down
on Nov 4, 2009 at 05:34 PM
one of you either have a serious crush on Mr. Bailey, or either birthed him.... only one of those two could talk about him w/ such adoration
Posted by: anonymous
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 04:51 PM
Oh yeah, "forget about that wreck", there were more wrecks where he was involved. No doubt. Ran from the scene once and when cops found his truck, wrecked, he told them his truck had been stolen. Ha! Drunk and high then, too. He was IN a wreck with his "girlfriend" while both of them had been doing coke; hurt her up pretty bad. He walked away...didn't even want to take her to the hospital. Scott free, again! Come on people...this is a no-brainer!!!
Posted by: bailey
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 04:22 PM
im so tired of all off this.THIS IS ABOUT THE FOUTH DUI...NOT THE WRECK!!! GOT IT???!?!?!?! jack is a good father.to you whom do not know him. SO SHUT UPP!
Posted by: To a friend of the family
on Nov 4, 2009 at 04:18 PM
Really? The Ides have said nothing bad against the Bailey family? Obviously, you really aren't a friend of the Ides, or you'll be disappointed that you weren't invited to all their online parties where they totally bashed not only Jack Bailey, but also his father. Had Mr. Ide NOT been drinking and driving the day of the accident, I could somewhat understand their blaming Jack. Had Mr. Ide not run the stop sign, I could more so see them blaming Jack. Had he not been a habitual drinking driver, I could totally see them blaming Jack. The fact is that even his friends say that he started off every Saturday morning with a cooler of beer and hit the roads to ride. This morning was no different, but the outcome was tragically so. Had Jack Bailey been a model citizen with no prior record and without drugs in his system, he still would not have been a magician. When someone runs out in front of you, you are likely going to hit him.
Posted by: agree
Location: BURKE
on Nov 4, 2009 at 04:16 PM
I agree with stick with your purpose. If the Ide's concern is about justice, then fight to change the system and for stiffer laws for drinking and driving. Stop this public fighting, the past is not going to change.
Posted by: Jason M.
on Nov 4, 2009 at 03:19 PM
The other man involved in this accident is deceased, so yes, it is Jack's "word", which I'm sure is 100% true since he is such and outstanding member of society!
Posted by: stick with your purpose
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 03:17 PM
If the purpose of this story is to have justice served for the last offense, then quit talking about the wreck!!!!!!!!!!!!! It's in the past. Nothing can change what happened that day.
Posted by: CoJa
on Nov 4, 2009 at 03:14 PM
well "concerned" somebody had to tell Channel 12 now didn't they!!! you're a bright one.. I guess you think it's ok for JACK to drink and drive and had been in an accident with a death involved and THAT STILL DID NOT STOP him.. now did it!!! Its plain to see that he really thinks he didn't so anything.. Yes, Mr. Ide may have had BAC of .04, and "failed to yeild", but still jack WAS involved in the accident and he got off the hook so easily that he thinks he can just keep right on doing it!! I guess you do drugs and drink, and then get behind the wheel and drive!! I have seen with my OWN 2 eyes, Jack drink and drive.. in the past 3 or 4 years.. and uhmm.. wasn;t he on probation then?? YES he was, and he thinks he's invincable!!
Posted by: to concerned
Location: burke
on Nov 4, 2009 at 02:57 PM
now who do you think filed the police report? the police werent there. somebody told them he failed to yield. so yes it is "his word"!
Posted by: get it straight
Location: BURKE
on Nov 4, 2009 at 02:51 PM
Cheech-the police report states Mr. Ide failed to YIELD according to the report by Channel 12-NOT STALL.Were you at the accident? Where's proof to your claims about what went on at the accident? More baseless accusations!!!!!!!!
Posted by: forget about that wreck
Location: bc
on Nov 4, 2009 at 02:45 PM
I wish 12 would have done a little more digging on Bailey, b/c I recall a few more wrecks that he's been involved in that were swept under the rug. I won't mention them on here b/c i'm not 100% on the facts but other people got hurt. 4th dui... and aint nothing happened; id make a fuss too... seems the only way to keep judical noses clean
Posted by: concerned
Location: Burke
on Nov 4, 2009 at 02:06 PM
Jason M. Channel 12 states the police report reveals Mr. Ide failed to yield. That's not Mr. Bailey's "word"!
Posted by: Cheech
Location: Augusta
on Nov 4, 2009 at 01:42 PM
anon, you are SOOOO right! Of course if Doug Ide hadn't run that stop sign - or if he had a truck that hadn't just stalled out when he pulled out - Jack would only be on his THIRD dui and not his FOURTH - but then again, since his truck was moved from the scene before the cops got there, we can't be sure now, can we? But I feel sure that as motivated as 'ole Jackie-boy seems to be in the pursuit of multiple dui's with no real penalties - well, other than a big 'ole 200 hours of cs - he would still have found a way to be up to #4 by now. Even taking the accident away you're still at dui #3, and I don't think the boy's lost his license yet. I'm sure justice would be so fair and agreeable for the rest of us. Just look at Jack in the mug shot - can't you see the remorse all over his face?
Posted by: anon
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 01:42 PM
Here's the deal..Both Mr. Bailey and Mr. Ide are at fault in this accident - Jack for speeding and having drugs in his system and Mr. Ide for having alcohol in his system and for being in the road in front of Jack, regardless of how he got there. It could have just as easily been Mr. Bailey who was killed. Enough said. As for this last DUI, the COURT will handle it. Your PERSONAL OPINIONS of Mr. Bailey and Mr. Ide are IRRELEVANT! Keep them to yourselves!
Posted by: Unbelieveable
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 01:32 PM
I don't know either families. As an outsider looking in, Mr Ide and Jack wer BOTH at fault. If Mr Ide had not died, how do you think this would turn out? Jack would not have been accused of ALL fault. Both were intoxicated. Both had a second offense, Jack-speeding and Mr Ide-running the stop sign. I am in no way condoning Jack's behavior nor Mr Ide's. And I am not saying this is easy for the Ide family, but seriously you are blaming Jack just to blame somebody. Mr Ide is gone, God said it was his time, obviously. It was horrible. And to all those bringing judgement on him and damning him to hell - IT IS NOT YOUR PLACE TO DECIDE THAT!! Find your bible or go borrow one and you will find out there is only ONE judge. Jack does need help. It was his decision to try the alcohol or drugs for the very first time, but addiction is not a choice. Drug addiction and alcoholism is a disease. To the Ide family, let your daddy rest in peace. Everything happens for a reason.
Posted by: Hopeful
Location: South GA
on Nov 4, 2009 at 01:16 PM
Had this been some "no name", he would being rotting in a cell after the second one and a man might still be alive today. This boy killed a man, accident or not, it didnt stop him! Somebody needed to bring light to the situation at hand. If it takes publicity from a another place to get it, then by all means bring it. Sometimes small towns need that little push to make them walk the straight and narrrow. Most political figures have their "friends", how do you think they get to where they are? Hopefully the courts will now handle it. Let the facts speak for themselves and hopefully all will be okay.
Posted by: ANON
Location: BURKE
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:24 PM
You who keep saying the Ide's are concerned about Mr. Bailey's 4th DUI are fooled. The Ide's have been on a campaign to crusify Mr. Bailey for 7 years. They have posted malicious comments on every forum that will allow them. While I don't condone Mr. Bailey's 4th DUI, the Ide's need to quit using this as a cover to continue to harass this man. That is what that are now doing. The courts have spoken whether it was justice in their eyes or not. If they continue the harassment and some of the accusations that they have made on different forums, it will be interesting to see if they find themselves in the courts. They may then be able to experience first hand the injustice that they speak about.
Posted by: Jason M.
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:08 PM
How do we know Mr. Ide never stopped at the stop sign? SURELY we aren't going on Jack Bailey's "word".
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:07 PM
jesus- Be careful about pretending to be God and judging or you too "SHALL NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN"
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:02 PM
The Ide's are not looking for peace and justice. They are looking for revenge forgetting that their Daddy was not a saint either. While Mr. Bailey's actions were not right, neither were Mr. Ide's and both men share in the blame. The court system might not be fair, but he has been tried, convicted and sentenced. The Ide's can't accept that though. They want to crucify him and try him again in the court of public opinion. If he has a 4th DUI, let the courts deal with that. The Ide's have received their money, he has received his sentence right or wrong, that should be the end of it. The Ide's should stop this crusade against Mr. Bailey and try to leave some sort of positive legacy for their Daddy if they truly care about him and justice. Instead of channeling their anger toward Mr. Bailey, channel it toward the court system and become an advocate for those against drinking and driving. That would at least be one thing positive out of all this.
Posted by: This is scary!
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:54 AM
I do not think that anyone is defending Jack's actions or 4 DUIs. Even the people who know and love Jack know that he has done wrong, but, if justice is what everyone is concerned with, then this should be handled in the courtroom. The worst part of all of this, other than the loss of someone's father, husband, and friend, is knowing that we live in a community so full of hateful, vendictive, and judgemental people. Both Doug Ide and Jack Bailey have familes who love them. They are the ones being hurt by the horrible things you are saying. For you people to sit here and judge either of them or wish harm on Jack and his family makes you a much worse person than you would like to believe Jack is. Jack made bad decisions. He is not a bad person. Yes, Jack needs to learn from his mistakes, but spend your energy fighting against a break down in the judicial system or for tougher laws - not personally attacking someone.
Posted by: ME!!
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:27 AM
Well to you "somebody" if Jack hadn't have been speeding @ 85 mph.. and been doing drugs then he prob would have still hit Mr. Ide from behind because he was driving with excessive speeds way beyond the law.. and the accident prob. would have ended up the same way! Who's to say Mr. Ide didn't stop at the stop sign and he pulled out very slowly and WHOA there's Jack!! So go figure.. Defend a criminal, but when it's one of your family members, YOU DON"T FEEL ANY HURT BECAUSE IT'S OK FOR JACK TO DRINK AND DRIVE!! You people are cowards.. Ok, i'm not a fan of drinking and driving AT ALL, but if you have 2 DUIs and then you hit and kill someone, or maybe its the other persons fault, but if you're involved, would that not be enough to STOP drinking and driving??? He just plain out doesn't care AT ALL.. and you ppl cannot say that he does!!! wow... To the Ide family: I hope you find comfort and peace. To the Bailey family: GET YOUR SON SOME HELP before he kills HIMSELF!!
Posted by: Somebody--again
on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:24 AM
For all of you saying Jack "shall not enter the kingdom of Heaven" .... Well, even God forgives.
Posted by: WOW
Location: GA
on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:22 AM
Ok so You people are really sick, I have lived with a drunk all of my life and I had no choice in the matter. My family and I tried for many years to help my father but he was just not willing to be helped, but like I said I had no choice in the matter so you should all just leave this little girl alone. I don't know either family personally but I do know that both parties were at fault. But DUI is a serious crime and it should be punished but in my understanding when someone is killed in an accident were drugs or alcohol is involved it is a zero tollerance so both parties here were responsible. And you can't say if Mr Bailey hadn't been speeding this may not have happened and not say that if Mr Ide had not ran the stop sign this may not have happened. And also you should leave God and Jesus out of this everyone will be judged when their time comes and it is not up to any of us to make that judgement.
Posted by: Somebody
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 4, 2009 at 11:00 AM
If Mr. Doug Ide would have stopped at that STOP sign then he would have watched Jack ride right on by!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: confused
Location: bc
on Nov 4, 2009 at 10:58 AM
how are you people defending 4 dui's and sleeping at night??? and if he didnt want his child to be affected by his actions, he should have thought about that before doing what he did! his NUMEROUS "mistakes" are not only affecting himself but everyone else around. how can anyone be angry at the ides for trying to see that he finally gets what THE LAW says he deserves?
Posted by: Stop The Nonsense
on Nov 4, 2009 at 08:27 AM
This is so sad.I would like to offer this, I think we have forgotten what an addiction is.My mother was an alcoholic for most of my life.I blamed her too for all of the madness.I had to grow up & realize how truly devastating addiction is.It may seem like they "choose" to be an alcholic/addict, but it's not that simple. Addiction is not a choice.We should stop brutalizing the families & blaming, & instead hold the people who distribute these products responsible who sell them knowing their effects & the possible outcome, & hold agencies responsible who release them when they are not ready.I'm truly sorry for your loss.Be angry!You should be! You lost someone dear to your heart, but we're fighting the wrong battle, fight addiction the real cause. 4 DUI's is terrible, but for an alcoholic/addict, it is merely only 4 times out of 100'2 they have been caught.I watched my mother get in her car loaded for years, believe me we tried to get help again & again & again. Its never enough.God Bles.
Posted by: jesus
Location: burke
on Nov 4, 2009 at 08:16 AM
JACK YOU ANGER ME ...YOU SHALL NOT ENTER THE KINGDOM OF HEAVEN
Posted by: Dorothy S.
Location: Wadley, Ga.
on Nov 4, 2009 at 08:06 AM
I can guarantee everyone one thing, when Mr. Bailey was arrested by the Wadley Police, justice will be served. They have a great Chief here now, and he expects his officers to enforce the law. Even though this is a small town, the Chief has found highly qualified officers to come work here. To the Ide family, rest assured justice WILL be served in this case. To Mr. Bailey, keep your drunk @#$ in Burke County where your people can pay off law enforcement.
Posted by: Diane
on Nov 4, 2009 at 07:19 AM
You people defending this monster are just as ignorant as he is. It's not revenge the Ide family is after. They want this careless fool behind bars because he is on his FOURTH DUI. Jack Bailey needs more than prison time and AA classes. He needs to find Jesus because that is one Man his daddy will NOT be able to pay off. Money is no good there. You people that are defending Jack; I hope it's not one of your parents, sibblings or your CHILD's lives that Jack takes on his next DUI excursion. Will you still defend him then?! You all are missing the point. It's not about who is right or wrong in the tragic accident, it's the fact that Jack keeps driving under the influence because there are no repercussions for his actions!
Posted by: people are crazy
Location: georgia
on Nov 4, 2009 at 12:36 AM
Hello people this is not about whether or not "jack" had drugs 3 or 4 days b/f it is about the face that he is a repeat offender so some of you say that Mr. Ide was drinking & driving .04 is 1/2 the legal limit so your claim that jack did drugs 3 days b/f what if mr. ide drank the night b/f... there are all sorts of what ifs in this case but the only proven point is Jack Bailey should not be allow to operate a vehicle on any road at any given time because someone who gets caught for DUI 4 times has driven drunk far too many times! Grow up Jack Bailey and Own up and to Jack Bailey's family stop being inablers and make him serve his time how many more people have to die or get injured before you realize the problem! Excuses don't take care of the problem! HE HAS HAD 4 DUI's!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: My opinion
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:01 PM
This ACCIDENT happended because two men decided to get behind the wheel of a vehicle while impared. Though I do agree that Jack needs to be held accountable for his actions (which he was be a court) I feel that the Ide family is only causing more pain for themselves and the Bailey family. I especially think this is both hurtful and damaging for Jack's child. The Ide family was asked to think of her before beginning this vendetta but their response was that they didn't care about the pain this may cause her. Looks like revenge is more important to them than a child. Makes you think about them wanting to protect the people of Burke County. Guess those who are too young to drive don't count. And by the way just because Mr. Ide didn't amass a DUI in 47 years doesn't mean he didn't deserve many, just means he didn't get caught.
Posted by: Justice
Location: Sardis
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:15 PM
In response to "Citizen" I don't see how you think that Jack wasn't "under the influence"... last time I checked illegal drugs impairs your driving. And think, if Jack was going the speed limit, it would have decreased his travel time & he would have never reach Mr. Ide's car. I love how small town politics are, justice never gets served. My thoughts and prayers are with the families. If this would have been resolved the right way the first time then we wouldn't be in this predicament.
Posted by: Friend of Family
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:12 PM
Ok so I have been reading these comments and I think it's sad at how many people want to defend Jack. What happened to the Ide's is a complete tradgedy. That being said the reason they wanted to get their story across is because in Waynesboro all you have to do is have a certain last name and you pretty much get off with a slap on the wrist. And I know this FOR A FACT! Crooked cops and Bad judges. The reason they wanted to get their story across is because the man that killed their father is on DUI number 4. And has what spent only one night in jail. Even if he was to show remorse for his actions that doesn't excuse the fact that he has yet to change. Yes mistakes happen but how would you feel if that mistake was with your father or member of your family? And THAT is why they are taking it to this level. I am personal friends with the Ide family and they have yet to have anything negative to say about any of his family and yes I do believe that prison would help him realize what he done
Posted by: Anonymous
Location: Martinez
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:04 PM
My thing is, not knowing both sides, what Mr. Ide did or did not do. This gentleman having 4 DUIs, that is habitual and he should NOT have a license at all, it should be REVOKED. He has not learned by now he is not going to learn, he needs help and his family as well as him need to seek that help. I am not here to judge that is up to God himself. However, he will continue to drink and drive and guess what people, even those who know him and are close to him, it may just as well be you that he hits and kills next time. I don't think that it is just anger that the Ide's family is holding on to, it is the fact that this guy continues to do this and they do not want another family to go through what they have been going through. Think about it people, right is right and wrong is wrong. So when this guy does it again and it is you or your child he kills, don't come running and hollering then that something should have been done a long time ago, like they are trying to do now.
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:01 PM
Cheech- My oh my poor lil ole Doug Ide. He didn't mean to drink and drive and run that stop sign that morning either.
Posted by: dude
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 08:46 PM
Why can't you people leave Jack alone.Just because he is a worthless drunk who gets high and kills people you feel like you should judge him.What about the Ide's looking to put a repeat offender in the public's eye.It is none of your business how worthless he is until he kills one of your family members. People like Jack and the other losers who sit here and defend him with fake names are a bunch of cowards. Don't worry though one of these days Jack will get his,I just wish it could be televised so everyone could see the price of a DUI. By the way you ignorant fools,the Ides did not bring TV cameras to the courtroom in Wadley,I really don't think they own a TV station. Anyone who thinks Jack is such a hero I cannot even pity.Then you sit around and attack a man who has been dead for 7 years, you worthless piece of craps.You brainless freaks should crawl back to wherever you came from.Leave the Ides alone in your quest to be on the Baileys good side, morals are not in their vocabulary!!
Posted by: Someone that knows him
Location: Alexander, Ga
on Nov 3, 2009 at 08:27 PM
I think if channel 12 did a terrible job reporting this story. Jack was a no show in court due to surgery. He is one of the best people you would want to meet. Did anyone forget Mr. Ide run a stop sign. While drinking himself, yea ok mabe Jack had some crap in his system from the night before. The difference between him and most of the people with all these opinions is he got caught. I for one will tell you I think he has paid his dues no matter what the fact of the law is. He done the time he was given in a court. If you want to make it about stiffer dui punishment thats fine. But I do think the personal attacks should be left to someone that knows him.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Nov 3, 2009 at 07:53 PM
i love how certain people seem to know so much about my father, that he was a habittual drunk driver?.....ummmm, no, yes my father did drink- he was NOT a drunk, actually when dad had to much, he always had someone esle drive, but what do i know right?...and to the person at the beginning of this convo.....my dad being a quote "slacker"....there was not a DAY in my father's life that he wasnt working his fingers to the bone just so that his wife & 3 kids could have a roof over their heads & food in their bellys. My father was an honest hard working man who served his country & his community, he was a war vet., a mason, a shriner, & most of all a respectable man. If the tables were turned & it were Jack that had died, my father would have done everything within his power to make sure that he carried the burdon & helped the Bailey family out as much as possible, because he was a REAL MAN. He always spoke highly of the Bailey family, it just makes me SICK @ how they have treated my family
Posted by: Cheech
Location: Augusta
on Nov 3, 2009 at 06:45 PM
My, oh my....poor lil ole Jack. Y'all take it easy on him now - after all, he had only managed to amass 2 dui's in his 20 years before he killed Mr. Ide, who, slacker that he was, hadn't managed to amass one in 47 years. And poor Jack was soooo tore up by his actions that he complained about that excessive 200 hours of CS he had to serve - I mean really, 200 hours, when the Ides get an entire lifetime of not having their loved one? Who wouldn't complain? Not to mention that he even got to delay going on probation 'cause of that already paid-for hunting trip. I mean, c'mon, cut the poor guy some slack - so what if he kills someone else on the road? It's only his 4th dui now....surely he's got a few more left in him.
Posted by: Kim
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 06:43 PM
In response to "Kim...TO YOU" If you are going to feel sorry for my child, be sorry that she has had to be exposed to all of this. And, actually, yes it has been said by Mr. Ide's children that he is not a good father. I cannot defend Jack's actions or the mistakes he has made, but I can defend the father that he is TODAY. I can and will also take up for my child, and for her to even be brought into to this ugly mess is inexcusable. You say if he keeps on, he will be without her father as the Ides are, yet that is exactly what the Ides are trying to make happen by spending the past 7 years trying to send him to prison. I don't mean to sound cold-hearted about the loss of their father. It was a horrible accident which possibly could have been prevented by both parties involved. And, I can promise you, no one wants to see Jack change and do right more than I do. Money does not fix mistakes...not sure what you are implying and I will not make assumptions so to that I have no comment
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 05:59 PM
Don't feel sorry for Jack's child. She's will be just fine. Feel sorry for the Ide's who are so filled with anger that they cannot let go. It was an accident in which both drivers were at fault!!!! Jack may have not received the justice the Ide's were looking for ,but unfortunately that happens in the court rooms across this country each and everyday. The Ide's should move on and do something more constructive with their anger than trying to destroy Mr. Bailey each and every day.
Posted by: ANON40
Location: BURKE COUNTY
on Nov 3, 2009 at 05:49 PM
If those of you who think a .04 BAC means that a person is not impaired, do some research: A person’s focus & attention is already affected at .04 BAC. In other words, impaired driving is taking place, & Mr. Ide did indeed fail to yield. As for "hmmm," you need to read up on metabolizing alcohol. I fail to understand why the Ide children felt it necessary to go to Jack Bailey's DUI hearing in Wadley. Have they forgotten that their father HABITUALLY put MY life, my family's lives, and everyone else that resides in this area of Burke County at risk when HE was on the road? He was extremely lucky he never killed anyone & his death COULD VERY WELL BE the direct result of his drinking. I truly sympathize with the Ide family, but apparently their grief has turned into hypocritical anger. Jack has made bad choices, but he is a good man...the same could be said for Mr. Ide. For everyone's sake, the Ide children need move on with their lives & LEAVE THE BAILEYS ALONE - enough is enough.
Posted by: Friend
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 05:34 PM
It blows my mind how some people have no life of their own, rather than to sit here and judge both of these families as if you are a part of them!! I would think that most people have more than enough problems of their own rather than get involved with two other families. This is between Jack and the judical system. The Ides had their say when they accepted the money!! They should have let all this go then when money exchanged hands. Yes,Jack has another DUI but it is not up to them to say what happens. As far as the loved ones in Jack's life...leave them the *(&% alone!! You have no right to sit here and judge him let alone bring his family into this. Get a life and leave the Bailey and the Ides ALONE!!!!
Posted by: personal
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 05:27 PM
This is so sad. I am personally connected to this story. I would be lying if I said I am not biased, but what is happening here is terrible. People, some of who do not Jack or Mr. Ide personally, are making personal attacks on both of them just because they can. Those who truly want to see justice served on Jack should leave it to the Ides to handle in the courtroom. Those who are concerned about what this is doing to Jack and his family should contact them. People are judging both of these men on only part of who they are and what they did. This is disgusting and none of us should be proud to have a part in it.
Posted by: bailey
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:59 PM
THIS IS ABOUT THE 4TH DUI!! all the rest of the stuff is over.
Posted by: Kim.. TO YOU
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:56 PM
All mendema is saying is that Jack must not have been thinking YALLS child every time he gets behind the wheel after he's been drinkin.. they're just saying they feel sorry for her and I PERSONALLY DO to.. noone said he wasn't good father to her in general just think about it? ,,.. if he keeps on she'll be without her father, as the Ide's are... The Ide's haven't convinced me of anything.. because i know Jack and he'll never change.. But MONEY doesn't fix mistakes..
Posted by: bailey
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:51 PM
keeps jacks family members names out of this. his family has been through alot with all of this..if you dont know either of these two familys, watch wht you say.because its not your place to judge.i know the other man was a good man. but jack is too.i think he made a couple mistakes, yeah. but so have YOU
Posted by: WHAT?
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:51 PM
This guy (Jack) may be a good person to those who know him...but the FACT is he has a problem and needs to seek help! People should be ashamed for attacking the Ide's...let it happen to one of your family members and see how you feel and react. God bless the Ide's... and Jack-please get help for your problem; and 1 night in jail and 200 hours of community service is getting off easy!
Posted by: anon
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:42 PM
This is sad, you couldn't be more correct. What this story will do to these two families and this community is terrible and could have completely been avoided. If the Ides feel so strongly about justice being served, they could have shown up in the courtroom WITHOUT the T.V. cameras. Makes you wonder if this is really only about justice.
Posted by: responsibility
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:41 PM
...then maybe the Ides should have felt responsible to keep the roads safe from their drunk family member who was a habitual drinking driver...no, he wasn't yet drunk at 10:30 a.m., but I wonder what a couple of hours later would have meant to the people on the road with him...he ran the stop sign & caused danger to Jack in my opinion...yes, by all means, leave [name redacted] out of this...
Posted by: anon
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:35 PM
hmm, you say the the .04 could have been from the night before because it does take a while for alcohol to get out of the system. Does that excuse it? If so, you then have to excuse the drugs in Jack's system from nights before; doesn't it also take a while for them leave your system. What's fair is fair. As far as the accusation an anon made about Jack lying about Mr. Ide running the stop sign. How he got there is not the issue. The fact is that he for whatever reason was in the road in front of Jack. Also, someone shared the consequences that each DUI CONVICTION carries. That's the difference here. Jack has not been CONVICTED of 4 or 5 DUIs. People are not concerned with the facts. This is a public execution and is in no way justice for anything.
Posted by: money
Location: w'boro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:24 PM
i thought the reporter said the case can't be brought back up, so how could the ide's get more money? i've known all of them for a while before this and they haven't ever seemed greedy. I like what The Facts and The Law said, according to the law was justice serived? Isn't this more about fourth dui that he'd didn't showup in court for? What should the Ide's do? Sit there and hope he doesn't hurt someone else? Is that enough? Looks like THEY feel some responsiblity to do something.
Posted by: kudos
Location: wboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 04:06 PM
good point anon & hmmmm; didn't think about it like that. kudos to the family for being brave & sticking up for the rest of us
Posted by: LOL
on Nov 3, 2009 at 03:29 PM
...and that cooler full of beer that people respectfully picked up out of the road was from the night before too, right? Those of you who have heard so much about Jack, have you not heard that Mr. Ide was a habitual drinking driver? There goes someone ignorant -- with the comment about his "children." He has one child, and though there are rumors that he has another, the mom is not quite so sure it's his, so she refuses the paternity test for which he has asked several times.
Posted by: The Facts and The Law Part 2
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 03:19 PM
Here's the law. A person may be charged with DUI with a BAC of .05 Grams. A person "will" be charged if BAC is .08 or high whether or not he is a less safe driver. A 1st conviction results in a minimum of 24 hrs in jail and 20 hr CS. Upon 2nd conviction, all drivers must serve a minimum 1 yr suspension with a minimum of 72 hrs in jail. (The Law) A third conviction in ten years and your licence is suspended 5 yrs, you must spend a minimum 15 days in jal. (Again the law) The 4th conviction is now a felony, punishable of 1 to 5 years in prison. In addition, homicide by vehicle carries a minimum 3 yr suspension. So there it is, the facts and the laws. Was justice according to the law served?
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 03:18 PM
Mendema- You say "whatever the facts". EXACTLY! You know nothing about this case, Jack, his familty or what type of father he is!!!!!!!!
Posted by: The Facts and The Law Part 1
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 03:00 PM
Here are the facts. Ecstasy can remain in your system for 1 to 4 days, with a high lasting up to 6 hrs and after effects that may last for days or weeks. Meth can remain in your system for 2-4 days, with a high lasting up to 8 hrs. Side effects of both these stimulants include loss of concentration and coordinations, and vision problems. These drugs may fool drivers into thinking they can drive better. To reach a BAC of .04 can take less then two drinks. How many of us has drank 2 beers and drove home from a resturant or a party. Once a person stops drinking alcohol is eliminated from the body at a rate of .015 grams BAC per hour. How many of us have partied hard, and then got up the next morning and drove to work? If any of us would have been stopped on our way to work, we would have probably blown at least .04. This is not to say that this was the case with Mr. Ide. Bottom line, the driver knows what he has consumed. If he chooses to drive, he should pay the consequences. (2B Con't)
Posted by: anon
Location: Waynesboro, Georgia
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:46 PM
It is pretty low to bring a child into this argument. She is the innocent victim in this whole story. Attacking Jack is one thing, but leave the child out of it especially when you don't know what you're talking about! Also, supposedly this story was about drinking and driving and how the Ide's were so concerned about "keeping the streets of Waynesboro safe." Guess they weren't that concerned when their Daddy was the one drinking. After 7 years this isn't about drinking and driving or justice, it is about the Ide's not getting the justice and money they were seeking.
Posted by: This is sad
Location: Vidette
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:45 PM
Jack Bailey is a good, hard working man who none of you that are posting these untruthful terrible comments really know. I happen to know for a fact that he is a good father and that his daughter loves him very much. Things like this can cut deep wounds in a small community that will never heal. For those of you that are angry at Jack for this crime that he has paid his dues for, get over it. Doug Ide is gone. Let us be thankful for the beautiful family that he left behind and all the lives he enriched while he was here. Punishing Jack won't do anything but prolong the pain that this tragedy has caused. I know Jack well enough to say that all of this public scrutiny and attention is not only punishing him but also his daughter who in no way deserves it.
Posted by: Praying for the Ide's
Location: WAYNESBORO
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:40 PM
ok.... so some that Jack WAS NOT "under the influence", and that drugs were just "in his system", then who's to say that Mr. ide's "alcohol level" wasn't from the night before?? I personally DO NOT think that the Ide's have lied once.. they're obviously not trying to hide the truth about their father becasue its all over the news.. Just because is a "good person" doesn't mean that he should get a DUI and it be looked passed EVERY SINGLE TIME!! Money talk, and bullcrap walks.. He should feel shame and guilt... Yay.. let's go do METH AND ECTASY everyone and go out and ride around and kill someone, and let's not have any remorse AT ALL... Poor him.. 3 months of community service.. thats sad.. and then you complained about it... I feel soo sorry for [name redacted]! Get your crap together and grow up and quit relying on your father to do everything for you.. you're a man.. so act like one!!!
Posted by: Burke Resident
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:36 PM
How can you say that Mr. Ide was drunk with a .04 BAC. When in Mr. Bailey's own words, his last DUI .095 BAC was 'barely' a DUI. The legal limit is .08. Sounds kinda stupid to me.
Posted by: disgusted
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:19 PM
Mendema, Jack has ONE CHILD and there is no reason for you to bring her into this. He IS a wonderful father to her, despite what the Ides would have everyone to believe. How would I know? Because I am her mother. If you want to discuss the accident or drinking and driving then do so, but LEAVE OUR CHILD OUT OF THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: whateva
Location: Augusta
on Nov 3, 2009 at 02:10 PM
"and justice for all"
Posted by: anon
Location: boro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 01:43 PM
of course the alive one would say the other ran the stop sign... hes not here to defend himself. who knows what really happened....
Posted by: hmmm
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 01:30 PM
just bc he had .04 doesnt mean he was drinking at 10am. that could have easily been from the night before. it does take a while for alcohol to get completely out of your system. and if jack didnt do it then why did he plead guilty???? has he now changed his mind?
Posted by: Mendema
Location: Waynesboro, Ga.
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:58 PM
Whatever the facts, Jack Bailey's family has paid off his mistakes too long. You would think they would want to get this alcoholic son some help. Perhaps now that the incident is not in Burke County justice will finally be served and this young man will pay for his mistakes. I just pity the children to whom he has not yet been a good father.
Posted by: outside looking in
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:43 PM
isn't this about the fact that the 30something year old "boy" has been arrested for 4 DUI's? I'm confused about the personal attacks, b/c the facts seem to speak for themselves. If you want to attack the Ide's, I've heard more than enough about Jack bailey to give them some amo... but I haven't heard them mention any of that other stuff, maybe they don't even know it. Regardless of what happened on the day of the wreck... there are still 4 DUI's on the table.
Posted by: ANOTHER FRIEND
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:42 PM
AMEN, FRIEND!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted by: hypocritical
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:21 PM
Those of you who are so quick to dismiss the fact that Doug Ide was drinking while driving that day because his blood alcohol level was only .04 aren't quite as willing to dismiss the fact that Jack was not under the influence of the drugs in his system. Why is that? Didn't the report say the misdemeanor DUI was dismissed? This accident is not the result of Jack driving under the influence. He should not have been speeding, but I bet most of us are guilty of that. Just as MAYBE the accident wouldn't have happened if Jack hadn't been speeding, MAYBE it wouldn't have happened if Mr. Ide hadn't pulled out in front of him. Also, has anyone considered the type of vehicle Mr. Ide was driving? That is likely also a contributing factor to the outcome of this accident. I am not sure why people are so quick to bash Jack for mistakes he made when no one is perfect. Jack is a much better person than those of you wishing these horrible things on him and the people who care about him.
Posted by: yes
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:18 PM
"An average family could not afford to pay off those neccesary to keep him out of jail and keep his license": or work as many hours and put as much time into their jobs. I belive it is a money situation. In that a case was settled by money being paid to the Ide's as well as court fees. Money will not bring Mr. Ide back, but hopefully it will get Jack the help he needs.
Posted by: Friend
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:16 PM
I think until you have walked in a mans shoes, you should keep "your" opinions to yourself!! Nobody knows what either one of these families has gone through, so mind your own business and worry about your life!!
Posted by: Citizen
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 12:01 PM
If you want to talk about bashing someone, talk about the Ide's hateful, untrue, and inappropriate lies all over the internet. Again, Jack was not "under the influence" at the time of the accident. You are right, the Ides have every right to feel the way they do, but Jack's family has rights too. You say the Ide family claims they want to get Jack help but it seems to me if they were so concerned about getting him help they would be advocating for mandatory AA meetings...not prison. These people don't care about getting Jack help; they want revenge.
Posted by: citizen 2
on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:53 AM
It does apear that deep pockets had alot to do with Jack still having a license. An average family could not afford to pay off the those neccesary to keep him out of jail and keep his license
Posted by: Smells like cuyarn
on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:45 AM
I have known Jack for a long time and I knew Mr. Ide. Mr. Ide was a nice man who loved his family very much. The hard truth is that no amount of justice will bring him back. Until this family can come to realize that they will not heal from this tragedy. Jack Bailey has his faults but I say let those without sin cast the first stone. The truth is if the roles were reversed and Doug killed Jack that morning then nothing would have transpired any differently. Burke County is a who you know not what you know place and Steve Bailey or Jack Bailey don't have any more connections than Doug Ide did. And even if they do, what difference does it make? 90% of the people who read or hear about this know in the back of their mind how lucky they are not to be where Jack is right now. It's really easy to seem high and mighty and without fault while you're kicking a man who is already down. Disguising your anger under the veil of doing something for the common good is disgusting to me.
Posted by: Not confused has it right
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:40 AM
NOT confused has it correct! I am not a friend of Mr. Bailey, but I do know Mr. Ide was also intoxicated and this was not his first time drinking and driving. Perhaps News 12, should interview the witnesses and they might could tell you a different story all together. Also, how is it fair to pick on just one individual, when there are thousands just like him. If you all are such good people, why don't you let God handle Jack and move on and enjoy your lives. No father would want his children to drag out his death and not live happy lives. Also, I don't think the Bailey family would be doing all this to your family if the shoe were on the other foot, considering both parties were guilty.
Posted by: Citizen
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:35 AM
Im sure EVERYBODY understands both sides of the story, but I personally know Jack, and he does do drugs and he also drinks very heavily! No matter what Doug Ide did.. his alcohol level WAS ONLY .04.. and he DID NOT have drugs in his system.. If Jakc wouldn't have been "under the unfluence", maybe he wouldn't have been speeding that day. On dirt roads in Waynesboro, we all know them like the backs of our hands, you may never stip completely but you do look both way and then proceed.. Ide may not have stopped completely but im sure he looked both ways before pulling out into the road, but jack was going 85 MPH and Mr. Ide probably wasn't expecting someone to be driving that fast. I'm sure that if he had have stopped it wouldn't have been any different because Jack was driving WAY TOO FAST.. so before you all go bashing the Ide family.. THINK!! they have a right to feel the way they feel. No, their dad DID NOT kill himself.. whats .04?.. one beer, maybe? MAKE AN EXAMPLE OUT OF JACK!!!!!!!!
Posted by: Dear Burke Resident
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 11:15 AM
Get your facts straight...Jack was not "high as a kite" when the accident happened; however, Doug Ide WAS drinking and driving at the time. The drugs in Jack's system would not have still been affecting his ability to drive or react to someone pulling out in front of him. Doug Ide was under the direct influence of alchohol when the accident occured. If this story is to take a stand against drinking and driving, how can the family be so quick to dismiss the fact that Doug Ide was doing exactly that? Because he was only .04? It was also 10:30 in the morning. Who's to say that if he had not pulled out in front of Jack that day, he would not have hit and killed someone himself. Had he continue to drink and drive that day, he would have been DUI after just a few more beers. It seems somewhat hypocritical of this family to want to publicly execute someone for doing the same thing their father did. Drinking and driving is wrong when anyone does it.
Posted by: don't judge
Location: Waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:55 AM
Bailey, you that is so true. All of these people who are so quick to judge him know nothing about him. They have heard a story of only the mistakes he has made; they know nothing about the rest of his life or the kind of person he really is, unless, of course, they think they do because they read and believed all of the lies the Ides posted about him all over Facebook.
Posted by: nowhere near confused
Location: burke county
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:46 AM
"the man who died did kill himself" Give me a break. I'm sure that whoever posted that is either the repeat offender or some stupid **** who dreams of being his bff. Either way know that your words are an insult to anyone who has ever lost someone under similar circumstances. The two of you have got to be the biggest waste of human skin in Ga. That family has a desire for him to get help and he is going around insulting them and the entire judicial system. I hope that you are the one crossing an intersection the next time he gets drunk or high and decides to drive at ridiculous speeds. Despite the help the family says they hope he gets, I for one hope they get justice.
Posted by: Anonymous
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:41 AM
"Burke Resident" get the facts straight. Jack was not "high as a kite" when the accident occurred. The drugs in his system would not have still been affecting his ability to drive or to react to someone pulling out in front of him; however, the alcohol in Mr. Ide's system was there because he was drinking at that time. If this family wants to take a stand against drinking and driving, how can they be so quick to dismiss the fact the their father was the one drinking and driving when this accident occcured? The accident occured around 10:30 in the morning and this man was already .04? Whose to say that if he had not pulled out in front of Jack, he wouldn't have hit and killed someone himself? Everyone needs to remember that there were two families affected by both Jack's and Doug Ide's actions that day.
Posted by: Ronny Johnny
Location: Wadley
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:38 AM
Jack Bailey didn't do anything wrong. The guy killed was DRINKING AND DRIVING. Ecstasy does not mess with your mind for 3 days in a row. It was in his system, he was not under the influence.
Posted by: Bailey
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:34 AM
i think we all need to remember that could have been jack that got killed that day..what jack had been doing doesn't make it right but the other man HAD been drinking..PEOPLE MAKE MISTAKES. YAll dont know jack bailey so dont judge him please. the news didnt show his side of the story..it always looks worste.
Posted by: Bailey
Location: waynesboro
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:30 AM
ok well jack is my cousin, i think they fail to think that it could have been jack that died in that wreck. because they were both in the wrong. but that doesnt make any of it right. jack is not the first person to do any of this.so why is jack's face on the news. people do make mistakes.even though that doenst make it right...PEOPLE DO MAKE MISTAKES!!
Posted by: whatever..
Location: Evans
on Nov 3, 2009 at 10:02 AM
I thought I was going to throw up when this man had the nerve to say he has went through a lot, imagine what this family has went through...3 months is NOTHING, you have serious problems. Being in jail would be the best thing for you. The nerve to say something like that is just beyond me - 3 months of community service....huh!!! WOW, you really got it bad dude - oh and a day in jail, obviously wasn't enough or you wouldn't be continuing this behavior.
Posted by: Burke Resident
Location: Sardis, GA
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:56 AM
Gimme a break! Community service...'every weekend for 3 months'. What about this family suffering everyday for the rest of their lives? 'Barely a DUI'...buddy you need some serious help. It's very obvious that you don't 'think about your involvement in that man losing his life'. If you did you wouldn't have 'barely' gotten your last DUI. That's like saying I 'barely' got pregnant. It's no wonder this family can't move on & forgive you. You just plain don't care. I bet you have never showed one bit of remorse. I also bet that you can justify somehow that this was Mr. Ide's fault as much as it was yours--I don't know how cause the evidence proves you were high as a kite. May God have mercy on your soul if you ever ask for forgiveness.
Posted by: NOT confused!
on Nov 3, 2009 at 09:13 AM
No, "confused," you are NOT confused! The man who died DID kill himself. The statement is correct. At 10:30 in the morning, the "victim" was drinking & driving, as he habitually did. He ran a stop sign, and he was unfortunately hit by a speeding vehicle driven by a man who had taken ecstacy at a party 2 nights prior. No, ecstacy use is not acceptable, & neither is excessive speeding. However, the last time I checked, drinking and driving is unacceptable as well. Furthermore, running a stop sign is a sure way to cause an accident. So, NO, they do NOT need to put Jack Bailey's name in there. The man who was killed was drinking & driving. Maybe his children should have been so ANTI-DUI while he was living. I understand being angry at a drunk driver killing a loved one, but in this case, the "victim" was a habitual DUI candidate himself AND was drinking & driving at the time of the accident. I am confused too -- how do they have the nerve to be so hypocritical?
Posted by: confused
Location: augusta
on Nov 3, 2009 at 08:13 AM
Something isn't right, how can the man that died have a toxicology report stating he was drunk but someone else killed him, that statement needs to be fixed because he didn't kill himself. It should say jack bailey's name instead. I will pray for the family and pray they get this clown and gives him what he deserves!
Posted by: Enraged
on Nov 3, 2009 at 07:57 AM
After hearing this story last night, I was so disgusted. First of all, the guy should still be in jail for murder. Second of all, why was he allowed to get a license after that? When is the system going to actually punish him? He has a lot of nerve complaining about 200 hours of community service. Poor him. I'm sure that family would gladly work every w/end for the rest of their lives to have their family back. This man is a selfish, inconciderate drunk. Of course he is going to drink and drive again, why not? All he will have to do is get slapped on the wrist, who cares if someone dies?! |
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Come on now , the guy has been a screw up all his life and the proof is in the pudding , and for the sleezy tramps that are taking up for him , when the meth wears off and the smoke finally clears maybe your eyes will open also ! Jack makes bad dessions and is gonna have to pay for his mistakes , its just that simple. The party will go on without him, dont you worry !
Small town politics! This guy should have been in a jail a long time ago & should stay there. I've lived in BC all my life & have continued to see the guilty getting away with their wrong doings. Yes he may be living with the thought that he's killed a man; however it doesn't seem like he's learned his lesson if the continues to drink and drive! The guilty should be punished!
I have posted my opinion on here, but my opinion has changed!! I feel it may also be a little more than just getting this man help from the "Ide's".. Seems like they need to be mad at the Judicial system not Jack just bc he happened to be the one "right there" that day!.. Ide's I know you all have alot of anger but yall's peace has been said and done with the wreck! Since you all are such strong people of God, ask him to be with you and his will be done.. Don't take something and run with it like you all are doing!! Thats whats makes you all look as bad as having 4 dui's! Even tho Jack's not a bad person, he is a person with a problem. Ide's i feel like you all have no say so in what happens to Jack this time, THIS dui doesn't concern you all!!
With everything said in my previous post, I remember hearing, "He killed my father." Mr. Ide's death was a TERRIBLE tragedy, but with the circumstances of the accident, this statement is not justified. Jack was charged with vehicular manslaughter BECAUSE OF GA LAW, not because he caused the accident or was impaired. No one is saying Mr. Ide was a bad man, but HE DID drink & drive...he was doing it on the morning of the accident or was still drunk from the night before - either way, he was indeed drinking & driving that morning - .04 is the proof. Jack was not drinking that a.m. Quite frankly, "The pot calling the kettle black" comes to mind here...The Ide children are fighting for justice for something their father was doing the morning of his death. If the Ides are sincere when they say they want Jack to get help, the harrassment (facebook, showing up in court, etc.) would stop. I pray the Ides find peace & can move past the anger-when & if they do, healing may be possible for all.
Some of you still don't get it. Do you know that if a commercial driver blows a .04, he/she is automatically guilty of DUI? Why? Because focus & attention are already affected - Mr. Ide was IMPAIRED, but not LEGALLY intoxicated. Also, GA law makes it possible for someone to be arrested for vehicular manslaughter without being impaired at the time of the accident, which is what happened to Jack. The effects of the drugs in his system last approx. 8 hrs & were taken 2 nights before-DO THE MATH. Those of you who smoke pot at night, (after reading these posts, I'm sure some of you will appreciate this info) you could leave for work in the a.m., someone run out in front of you & they are killed. It wasn't your fault, but guess what? YOU could very well have enough THC in your system to be charged with vehicular manslaughter. Were you impaired? No. ALSO: Investigations into accidents determine point of impact by skid marks, etc., which is how it was determined that Mr. Ide failed to yield.
RE: Illegal is Illegal. Its kind of hard to sentence a dead man to more harsh punishment don't you think! But I agree dui is ILLEGAL no matter what. Revenge? Their father/husband was killed. No matter what side you take or story you believe the truth is this whole mess got brought into the spot light because of the "alleged 4th violation". I am not taking up for the Ide's. I have never met any of them, but I have known Jack for 25 years.
This is rediculous.If you really wanted to help Jack maybe you should have tried a different approach? Like telling him to his face, not broadcasting it to Burke County? Just a thought.All this has done is hurt Jack, his family, and his friends. If you are concerned with the streets of Burke County, that all of us are guilty driving drunk on, maybe you should channel your hate and your energy towards doing so. Bashing Jack's name won't bring your father back. It doesn't seem like you are looking for justice, but whatever it is you are looking for, I hope you find it.
you ppl said it...."it's about JACK"!!! I thought this was supposed to be about drinking and driving and/or a break down of our judicial system???
I don't think anyone ever said Jack's actions were okay or that they approved of drinking and driving or that he should not have to pay any consequences They were just merely defending him from personal attacks and pointing out other relevant facts about the accident.
THANK YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree it is time for this to end. What Mr.Bailey did was wrong, what Mr. Bailey is doing is wrong, what Mr. Ide did was wrong, what the Ide's are doing is wrong. They cannot settle the case, take the money and run, and then cry foul. There is enough blame to go around. It needs to stop.
you ppl are not getting the point... maybe the Ide's are out for revenge, but for whatever reason they are doing this, I am thankful b/c it could have been anybody that day that pulled out in front of him and we could have innocently done it, and i don't think that it would've mattered!! --That fact is that Jack has actually been caught 4 times and yes i'm sure a lot of ppl do drink and drive, but for him he didn't even stop doing AFTER he was involved in the death of someone! I'm just saying that ppl get DUIs everyday but I have never heard of one continuing this behavior. It just goes to show that people who have been caught and continue to do it JUST PLAIN OUT DO NOT CARE!! Like I said maybe the Ide's are out for revenge but EVERYONE knows, even the one's stating that Jack's actions are ok, that he isn't practicing safe behavior.. You ppl keep saying i bet there are other ppl out there that drink and drive, but guess what, THIS ISN"T ABOUT OTHER PPL, it's about JACK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WOW!!! I HOPE YOU FEEL LIKE A "REAL" MAN NOW THAT YOU HAVE THREATENED 2 WOMEN. NO ONE IS DEPENDING JACK BUT MERELY POINTING OUT FACTS. MR.IDE DID IN FACT HAVE ALCOHOL IN HIS SYSTEM AND HE DID RUN THE STOP SIGN...EVERYONE SHOULD LET THE JUDICAL SYSTEM HANDLE THIS AND NOT THE FAMILY OF THE DECEASED AND THEIR FRIENDS. SHANNON
No one is defending Jack. We are just pointing out complete facts. Mr Ide was not soooo innocent like everybody is making him out to be.
Hopefully there is a cut off time for the circus that everyone has created with this forum. News 12 should be ashamed to let it go on this long. At one point I really felt sympathy for both parties involved, but this has become so repetitive and rediculous that it just needs to stop. It's one thing to have a purpose and stick to it, but what's the purpose here? This is really sad and embarrassing for the entire community. Come on guys, have a little more dignity!